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    Thiefs

    There are 5 thiefs and they rob a bag of gold coins in it. There were 100 gold coins.They decided to divide the gold coins among themselves.
    There was a seniority level among the thiefs.
    1 means highest seniority and 5 means lowest seniority .
    So dey decided that thief with the highest seniority will propose a method to divide gold coins and then there wud b a polling. If there is atleast 50% majority in favour of him then his proposal will b accepted otherwise other thiefs will kill him and now the next seniormost thief will propose a method and again a polling will held..nd the story goes on....
    The thiefs are equally greedy and equally intelligent.
    What proposal wud u put if u were been the senior most thief ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by smart_coder View Post
    There are 5 thiefs and they rob a bag of gold coins in it. There were 100 gold coins.They decided to divide the gold coins among themselves.
    There was a seniority level among the thiefs.
    1 means highest seniority and 5 means lowest seniority .
    So dey decided that thief with the highest seniority will propose a method to divide gold coins and then there wud b a polling. If there is atleast 50% majority in favour of him then his proposal will b accepted otherwise other thiefs will kill him and now the next seniormost thief will propose a method and again a polling will held..nd the story goes on....
    The thiefs are equally greedy and equally intelligent.
    What proposal wud u put if u were been the senior most thief ?
    Hi smartcoder


    I think senior most thief, when taking decision will keep in mind profit of level 1(himself), level 2 and level 3. This is because,when there is polling he requires atleast 50%. (that means 5/2= 3 persons).i.e atleast 3 persons should vote in his favour.
    (note:there is seniority level, thats why i selected level 2 and 3)


    He wont care of level4 and level 5 thief.(SINCE its also told that every thief is greedy).

    probably divide the coins as

    45,30,25

    Kill level 4 and level 5 thief(afterall they are juniors).50% polling condition will also be satisfied, because level 2 and level 3 thief will like it a lot!

    If i was the senior most thief, i would do this!
    I hope iam right, and if not, atleast close to the answer!

    bye


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    u didnt get the question correctly!!
    u cant kill juniors!! only senior can be killed by juniors if he doesnt win the polling!!
    and any how level2 thief wont vote for level1 because level2 himself wants to get the largest share..so level2 will vote against level1 so that level1 loses his majority and level2 thief wud be allowed to put a proposal!!


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    hi smart coder,

    how the thief's accept the polling ? any rules are there ? Suppose if two of them getting equal numbers of coins then they accept or not ?

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    If two thieves accept the equal amount of gold then my decision is 33.33% of gold for me 33.33% of gold for 4th and 5th theif.... I'm sure i will get 50 percent of vote.

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    A Thief votes for someone only after he ensures he will get sum gold coin or he will live alive!!


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    Hi Smart,

    Thats wat i told in my previous post... I'm sure that i will get vote from 4th and 5th so i got 50% of vote... So i'm happy as well as they also happy...

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    hi

    Yes, if u are thief manoj and you want to save your life, its always good to take safest path.Share equally among them!
    Even i agree with you manoj!
    But how will u share 100 coins amongst three equally? (ok u may have to melt it, weight them and .....).

    it seems bit odd, if all thieves get same amount of money, irrespective of their Seniority level!

    anyway good thinking manoj

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    If senior most try to distribute equally(i.e. suppose 33%) then no one will vote for him and they will kill him bcoz they think their share may get increased!!
    got the point??


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    hi smart coder,

    Here is my answer...i don't know this is correct....may be correct...

    Theif1 = 1
    Theif2 = 0
    Theif3 = 1
    Theif4 = 0
    Theif5(me) = 98

    If it is not correct then here is the another answer...

    Theif1 = 33
    Theif2 = 0
    Theif3 = 33
    Theif4 = 0
    Theif5(me) = 34

    Let us know any one of is correct ? Otherwise give some other clue..

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    why 4th and 5th will vote for u..coz they know if 1st get killed and if 2nd wud be given a chance to propose a distribution he may give 50% to 4th or 5th!!


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    Ok Shenoy small change in my answer

    4th theif - 33 coin
    5th theif - 33 coin
    3rd theif - 1 coin
    Me - 33 coin
    Total - 100 coin

    Why i took this decision is in the question its mention that all the theives are greedy including me... so i need more gold but at the same time i have to save my life... so this decision best suits in both the cases...
    No need to melt the coin... Now i'm safe...

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    Re: Thiefs

    i wont disclose now suresh otherwise others would stop thinking!!
    explain ur both answers!!


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    Instead of giving to 4th and 5th give to 2nd and 3rd so they wont kill me...

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    Re: Thiefs

    still they wont vote for u!! coz dere share wud get increased!!


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    hi smart


    give max to 5th thief, then bit lower to fourth.Leave out 2 and 3 .I , senior most will take least.

    say 5th give him 50
    4 30
    me 20.


    If its still wrong, then i request you to leave your solution here!


    bye

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    Re: Thiefs

    Suresh has already given the answer!!
    Theif1 = 1
    Theif2 = 0
    Theif3 = 1
    Theif4 = 0
    Theif5(me) = 98


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    Quote Originally Posted by smart_coder View Post
    Suresh has already given the answer!!
    Theif1 = 1
    Theif2 = 0
    Theif3 = 1
    Theif4 = 0
    Theif5(me) = 98
    hi smart

    iam not getting you dear! how come iam at number 5 level. Iam the senior most thief! isn't it?Please explain!

    bye

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    Re: Thiefs

    Theif1(me) = 98
    Theif2 = 0
    Theif3 = 1
    Theif4 = 0
    Theif5 = 1

    is it ok now??


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    Quote Originally Posted by smart_coder View Post
    Theif1(me) = 98
    Theif2 = 0
    Theif3 = 1
    Theif4 = 0
    Theif5 = 1

    is it ok now??
    no yaar, not getting the concept at all! please explain.

    my doubt , with this proposal, what i feel is thief 2, and 4 will simply kick me out of number one level. wont they?

    neither thief no 3 nor 5 will be happy with me .
    With this proposal , i cannot dream even 1 vote with me, then 50% seems to be ..........

    Ofcourse, there must be some concept, so do explain me!( since you told every thief is greedy,so why will they accept this proposal!)
    bye

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