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    Power

    Find the last digit of
    2^3^4^5^6^7
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    2^3^5^4^5^6^7

    logically and not by calculating!!


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    Re: Power

    Last digit of both the equation should be 6.

    Solution:

    In that first equation take the first 3.
    2^3 = 8
    8^4 = 6
    Its very easy to find the last digit of 8*8*8*8.
    first multiply 8*8=16. (last digit)6*8=32 (last digit)2*8=16.

    Here is the logic..whenever the last digit will come 6, it is sure at the end of any power it should be 6.

    In that second equation use the same logic. 2^3^5^4 will contains the last digit 6. so finally we got 6.

    i am using this logic..but i think some easiest logic might be there.

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    Re: Power

    Hey i found one more logic here....

    All the 2 power numbers goes to the same order like 2,4,8,6.

    So multiply the numbers except 2.

    3*4*5*6*7 = 2520.

    Divide this number by 4. because we have a same order.

    2520/4 = remainder 0. so it should be 6.

    Suppose if remainder 1 will come then the answer should 2 and so on.....

    Use the same logic u can get the same result for equation 2.

    If anyone have other simple logic then post here....

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    Re: Power

    2^3^4^5^6^7 : last digit is 2

    2^3^5^4^5^6^7 :last digit is 8


    Find the correct logic..other wise i will give it later !!!


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    Re: Power

    hi smart coder,

    Are you working for that answer...It should be wrong...check it out....

    Otherwise you explain..i will find the error....

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    Last edited by psuresh1982; 01-27-2007 at 03:26 AM.

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    Re: Power

    ok
    2^3^4^5^.... = 2^3^(an even number) = 2^(4k +1) ...so the last digit shud be 2.

    2^3^5^4.... = 2^3^(an odd number) = 2^(4k+3)... so the last digit shud be 8.

    Do U hve ne questions suresh??


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    Re: Power

    hi smat coder,

    what you mean by k in (4k+1) ?

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    yes..yes...i got the logical error in your answer....

    ok ....first you explain your solution (question mentioned in my previous mail)...

    Then i told you where you made a mistake....

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    Re: Power

    4K+1 means any number of this form like 5,9,13....


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    hi smart coder,

    According to the first equation 2^3^4^5^6^7 what is the value of k?
    how can you find the value k ?

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    Re: Power

    i cannot find the value of k but i know that 3^(even number) is of type
    4k+1 and 2^(4k+1) must end with 2..u dnt require to know the exact value of k!!


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    Re: Power

    ok smart coder....i know how the value k coming....
    Finally i ask one more question....

    According to your logic what is the last digit value for the following equation ?
    2^3^4

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    Re: Power

    its 2
    2^3^4 = 2^81 = 2^(4k+1)


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    so your answer is 2.

    ok now we solve it manually.

    2^3^4

    if we elobarate this one we get 2^3*2^3*2^3*2^3

    8*8*8*8 = 4096. so last digit is 6.

    Now tell me is it your logic correct ?

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    Re: Power

    ur basics are not correct..while calculating the powers u never go bottom to top..but u come top to bottom!!
    2^3^4 is equal to 2^81 not 8^4 !!!


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    Re: Power

    wt do u think about 2^1^2???.... tell me the last digit...4 or 2


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    Re: Power

    Kindly answer me Suresh!!!


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    Re: Power

    hi smart coder,

    see the attached image...your question like that only...
    Power-jpg

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    Re: Power

    i meant this!!!

    ----4
    --3
    2


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    Re: Power

    Here i want all of our puzzle solving friends...

    Because i never hear the logic "first you find top one and then finally bottom".

    Waiting for our friends reply....Tell me friends which one is correct ?

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    Re: Power

    lemme tell u wt i askd was based on a CAT question!!
    nd do u want to challenge IIMs??


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    Re: Power

    Well smart coder....
    i want to clarify myself...Because "Nobody knows all the things".
    That's why i need a help for other people.

    Also it is very difficult to find the value for your logic...
    I need a clear explantion about the 2^(4k+1).

    In my next example you simply told 2^81. so you calculate the 81 like 3*3*3*3. it is single power so you can calcualte easily...if it is large then how can you find ?

    If you explain this one i accept that. Waiting for your reply...

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    Re: Power

    I am not getting ur point...try to put another example!!
    you want other people's view...I also agree to that..beacuse we have many intellectuals present in this forum..and I want to invite everyone to read the whole thread and then comment.
    But what I asked is what I learnt at Career Launcher(a reknowned coaching for MBA) and if u ask this question to a person who is preparing for CAT will give the same answer as mine.
    Thanks


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    Re: Power

    Hi smartcoder,

    first i want to know,
    u meant 4-----3 ---- then 2 for ur problem or u r saying that is the mathematic powerof logic?

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    Re: Power

    wt wt wt anushya?
    I m totally confused by ur question...plz write clearly!!


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    ok smart coder...

    Explain the following one...

    This is you already posted....

    2^3^4^5^.... = 2^3^(an even number) = 2^(4k +1) ...so the last digit shud be 2.

    2^3^5^4.... = 2^3^(an odd number) = 2^(4k+3)... so the last digit shud be 8.

    In that above you mentioned 2^3^(an even number)..

    how you told that is an even number and how you write 2^(4k+1).....Also how the value 1 came that place ?

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    Re: Power

    Hi,

    see, as suresh comments, i know 2^3^4 is 8^4 and accepts that nobody knows everything. We wants to know the logic that u r explaining.
    In ur comment #19 u mentioned
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    i meant this
    ----4
    --3
    2
    "
    So, i asked, u meant and expect this logic to be followed for ur question or u r saying this is basic logic should be followed in maths.

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    Re: Power

    Yes anushya ...the logic is defined already that u come top to bottom..
    and suresh this is for you:

    4^(any number) is an even number
    so 3^4^(any number) = 3^(even number)

    now 3^(even number) = 4k+1 type

    like 3^2 = 9 = 4*2 + 1
    and 3^4 = 81 = 4*20 + 1

    ne other doubts?
    please feel free to ask..


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    Re: Power

    anushya this is for you..tell me the last digit for

    2^1^2


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    hi smart coder,

    Thanks for your explanation....

    My question is how you defined that is (4k+1) format or (4k+3) format ?

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    Last edited by psuresh1982; 01-29-2007 at 03:52 AM.

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    Re: Power

    if it is 3^(even) then 4K+1
    or if 3^(odd) then 4K+3


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    Re: Power

    hi smart coder,

    Thanks for your all the information....This is the first time i hear these type of concept....I want to know the concept..that's why i ask so much of questions...now i have some idea to solve these type puzzle...still i have one more doubt...

    you told me if it is 3^(even) then 4K+1.
    suppose some one give the equation...2^7^6^9^4 or simply 7^6^9^4.

    how can i solve this equation ? explain this also...

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    Re: Power

    Quote Originally Posted by smart_coder View Post
    anushya this is for you..tell me the last digit for

    2^1^2
    Its 4.

    I know only 2 concepts:
    1. 2^1^2
    2. the powers will be multiplied and powered to the base digit like: 2^(1*2)

    I discussed with my collegues,...agree the above two.
    nothing else .

    Also, 2^3^4 can be calculated as 8^4 or 2^12 which results same.
    2^3^4 = 2^81 will come if it is like 2^(3^4). Ofcourse brackets are important.

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    Re: Power

    look there can't be answers for all such type questions...u can have answers if u think very logically
    for ur question:7^6^9^4 i have a solution:
    6^(any number) is of form 4k except 6^1
    in ur question it is obvious dat it 6^(a large number) so it will be of type 4k
    Now 7^(4k) will always end with a 1.


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    Re: Power

    For u anushya:
    u can c many problems when brackets are not applied but d meaning is applied like the following examples:

    --4
    -3
    2
    this is not equal to

    -12
    2


    u cannot multiply the powers until the brackets are told explicitly..


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    Re: Power

    Yeah Smart coder i agree with u...

    2^3^4 is equal to 2^81....

    if there is no bracket then the concept is top to bottom approach... Here first we need to find 3^4 and then 2^81

    if we want to find bottom to top approach then we should use bracket its mandatory...

    (2^3)^5 = 2^(3+5)

    Thanks
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    Re: Power

    i knew dat atleast manoj will support me..i was waiting for u only!!!


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    Re: Power

    i think my this problem wud hve cleared basic mathematics concepts of many viewers!!
    dats y i put this in!!


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    Re: Power

    Quote Originally Posted by smart_coder View Post
    For u anushya:
    u can c many problems when brackets are not applied but d meaning is applied like the following examples:

    --4
    -3
    2
    this is not equal to

    -12
    2


    u cannot multiply the powers until the brackets are told explicitly..
    S, i accept, until and unless the brackets are explicitly mentioned we cannot do like that. i just mentioned that i (many of us) may know these concepts only - bottom to top. i accept (2^3)^4 = 2^12 and 8^4.
    We eagerly wants to know that top to bottom concepts working process for 2^3^4 (no brackets). thats it.
    Fine,...let me listen ur follow ups which is fine for me.

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    Re: Power

    What more you want to know anushya??
    what more working process??
    the process is simple
    just TOP to BOTTOM!!!
    dats it!!
    feel free to ask more!!



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