From Where Test data come?
Hi Friends,
I think this is a really good question, Not so difficult to answer but good one to discuss. My friend went for an interview in xansa, Noida, and this was the question asked by the interviewer, i really think on it, and found it better to discuss with all testers here.
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Re: From Where Test data come?
Test data may come from development team or the client company. :)
The data from development team is the test data used for white box testing, and that from client company will be real time data from their old data storage methods. Some clients may not agree to give real time data for data protection policies. :D
Test team may create their own test data not relying on the above mentioned sources. Creating large amounts of test data will be a tedious task, in such cases, a data generator like in the link below will be very handy. :cool:
[url=http://www.benjaminkeen.com/software/data_generator/]Data Generator[/url]
Re: From Where Test data come?
For your kind information "Sutnarcha", test data from development team can also be used for black box testing.I have used that in my project.Still good answer, but i look forward for more satisfactory answer.
[QUOTE=sutnarcha;4898]Test data may come from development team or the client company. :)
The data from development team is the test data used for white box testing, and that from client company will be real time data from their old data storage methods. Some clients may not agree to give real time data for data protection policies. :D
Test team may create their own test data not relying on the above mentioned sources. Creating large amounts of test data will be a tedious task, in such cases, a data generator like in the link below will be very handy. :cool:
[url=http://www.benjaminkeen.com/software/data_generator/]Data Generator[/url][/QUOTE]
Re: From Where Test data come?
In my previous post in this thread, I said
[QUOTE]The data from development team is the test data used for white box testing.[/QUOTE]
What I mean is it is the same data that the development team used for white box testing which can now be used by testing team for black box testing also. I didn’t mean to say that it is used for white box testing only.
I realize that my sentence (quoted above) is incomplete. :D
Re: From Where Test data come?
[COLOR="DarkSlateGray"]Waaw...That was a new piece of information for me....
In our company usually we testers used to create our own testdata...and test the application...Actually there is nothing called creation...We will test the application according to the context.....
Thanks for that Data Generator link Sutnarcha[/COLOR]
Re: From Where Test data come?
Frm whr test data comes "test data comes from requirments or can say tht test data orizinates from the requirments" thnx & regards rajeev sharma
Re: From Where Test data come?
I really thanks sutnarcha for that data generator tool link.
Actually friends this is also a great question asked by interviewers that "which data generator tool you have used?".
sutnarcha; if you have link of more data generator tools, please share that with all, I sure it will really help all.
And friends make discussion cool.Contribute all in it.It's really a great topic for discussion.
Re: From Where Test data come?
Guys i would like to add to the question in this thread.
I am mayank agarwal working in patni computer system as a software test engineer.
I would like to inform you about the test process and test data in particular.
the testing process goes like this:
1. KRT's(called Key Requirements Table) are written by a team in consultation with the client.
2. Test COnditions are written to satisfy the Requirements in KRT.
3. the KRT's are then grouped so that Test Case can be written for those KRT's.
4. Test Case is written for the KRT's grouped under one TestCase.
5. Test Case is reivewed by a separate team,defects are noitified to the test case designer, and also Test Data is identified by the team.
6. Test Data is populated in the system by the client side team according to the requirement given by review team.
7. Test Case is executed and defects if found are noitified.
Re: From Where Test data come?
I think, we will do database testing:
01. if there is no user interface for the application
02. Also, in case of database migration (verify indices, field names, etc)
Characteristics of Test Data
What are the characteristics of good Test Data?
What should be the approach towards choosing test data for (a) Manual testing (b)Automated Testing?
Re: Characteristics of Test Data
I dont think there is something called Good test data because if the Test data provided suits ur test & passes then it shud be the right test data or else u consider it as a bad test data
Re: Characteristics of Test Data
The question is not of what data is good? The question asks about the characteristics i.e. whenever we are chhosing a data set, what characteritics we should look for?
AND... Well we are not choosing test data just to pass the tests. Not a good testing practice u see.
Re: Characteristics of Test Data
See then it depends on the functionality u test yaa..
Characteristics of good Test Data?
What are the characteristics of good Test Data?
What should be the approach towards choosing test data for
(a) Manual testing
(b)Automated Testing
Re: Characteristics of Test Data
I am talking here about generalized characteristics of test data.
I can jot down few of the characteristics. A good test data set should be :
1) Realistic 2) Exhaustive 3) Reusable
But I need more characteristics...
And what about any special characteristics for a) Manual & b) Automated Testing?
Re: Characteristics of Test Data
I still haven't got the answer to the second part of my question "What should be the approach towards choosing test data for (a) Manual testing (b)Automated Testing?"
Re: From Where Test data come?
Hi all,
My opinion, test data comes from:
1. Project requirement
2. Experience
3. Data causing bugs of old version
4. Data causing bugs of bug data
5. Standard which the application is belongs to, ex: application for blinds
6. Data causing bugs of the same kind of project.
Tks for letting me know if I'm wrong.
Re: From Where Test data come?
Hi All,
1) A database dump of the real data can be asked for from the client. If there is any company policy which restricts them from giving the database dump then it will be point two mentioned below.
2) Testers can prepare test data after getting sufficient input from the client. But as mentioned by many of us the data creation for a huge application is going to be a tough job.
3) The test data can also prepared in consulation with the development team.
Re: From Where Test data come?
Hi all,
Test data - entirely depends on the sort of application being tested. Based on the testing techniques being applied on the application the test data varies.
we either go to generate the test data based on documents like BRS/URS (applying the methodologies like BVA & ECP) , or take data from the production database (with changes where ever necessary)
Re: Characteristics of good Test Data?
A good test data is that which is as close to as real data for the application.
For both (Manual testing, Automated Testing) we can use a data generator tool.
Re: Characteristics of good Test Data?
A good test data is the one that uncovers more bugs/defects.
It is as simple as that. But to put it in points, we can say, a good test data is
-a perfect combination of values to meet or set the test scenario as initial state for applying the test case.
-a good variation in values to apply the test case effectively and completely.
-values that try to break the functionality for the purpose of uncovering defects.
-both negative and positive values in and around the boundaries.
-something that is close to the real time data like ‘jainbrijesh’ said.
Even if these characteristics are not met, if any data uncovers more bugs/defects in a software, then it can be graded as a good test data.
Re: Characteristics of Test Data
[QUOTE=dsharma;8836]I still haven't got the answer to the second part of my question "What should be the approach towards choosing test data for (a) Manual testing (b)Automated Testing?"[/QUOTE]
Dear dsharma,
Test data will be same whether you do it manually or automated.The difference is in b/w way of using that.
As per you say about choosing test data, our client may provide it, we can use test data generator or test data from developers also.
Re: From Where Test data come?
[QUOTE=jainbrijesh;4917]For your kind information "Sutnarcha", test data from development team can also be used for black box testing.I have used that in my project.Still good answer, but i look forward for more satisfactory answer.[/QUOTE]
This question is related to the system analysis & design. I think the test data comes from the an already existing system i.e if we are going to deign a new system then the results which we obtained with the new system can be compared with the results of the old system.